05 November 2026
Ava Kofman on the surrogacy scandal that exposed a broken system

Ava Kofman, a staff writer at The New Yorker, joins us to discuss her five-part podcast, “The Journey,” which investigates the story of a wealthy Southern California couple who used surrogacy to collect 27 children. Beyond disturbing allegations of abuse, the case exposed troubling gaps in fertility industry oversight, child protection, and the law.